Hyderabad Branch split wide open; Newsletter publication stopped by ICAI Secy.
If any evidence was needed that our profession has gone the BCCI way and is now mainly about power politics, pls see the mails below... Hyderabad too has gone the way of many other branches of ICAI... where the Managing Committee is badly divided... in this case however i actually believe that the action taken by the Secretary to order stopping of Branch newsletter is right on 2 counts... but on one count it sure isnt -
Displaying photo of Lord Shiva on newsletter cover page... there is nothing wrong about it.. I certainly dont agree with the views of CCM J. Venkatesawaralu on this aspect...
But the funny part of all this internal bickering being that the direction of ICAI Secretary to stop printing of newsletter came after the newsletter had been dispatched and reached most members!! ICAI once again has lived upto its reputation :) ( though to be sympathetic to the Secretary, how could he have imagined that the newsletter would contain objectionable content ? )
From: Suneel Appaji FCA <appaji@appaji.com>
Sender: appajiappaji@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:10:16 +0530
Subject: ICAI Secretary is swift in action - can you believe?
Dear All
ICAI Secretary is swift in action - can you believe? whether he acted immediately upon a request from a CCM / directions of VP / P is not known........but he acted...........complete details hereunder
I am pasting the email addressed by JV ( CCM from Hyderabad ) to Chairman of Hyderabad Branch, President, Vice-president, Secretary of ICAI at the bottom of this email, i.e. after my statement of opinions and comments............JV requested the Chairman to not to post the Branch News Letter of March, 2013 for certain reasons.
To please the council member, Secretary has asked the Chairman not to print and circulate............I have no clue as to whether Subodh or Raghu have instructed ICAI Secretary or he has acted on his own........However, he instructed is true....but my Delhi spies told me that they are unaware of concerned provisions - under what regulation he can ask or issue such direction is known only to him..........I am too not aware of branch directions, guidelines etc.
Now let me explain the issues involved......You may scroll down to see the complete email of JV before or after reading my analysis ........option is with you
Publishing of Lord Shiva's Photo on cover page - When ICAI has published photographs of politicians or ministers who are in-charge of our institute matters, what did the council members did.......nothing .........but Lord Shiva is neither holds Ministry nor a politician.......
When ICAI President's are received with "Purna Kumbha" at various places, no issues...publishing Lord Shiva is not a secular act.
Starting most of the conferences / seminars with Bhakti Songs (devotional songs) is secular but not publishing Lord Shiva's Photo
When at SIRC, Lord Ganesha was planted, no issues........but publishing his father's photo is not secular
When one CCM distributes Laddus, Bhagavat Gitas, Puictures of Lord Venkateswara........our JV was silent..........now when branch Chairman publishes Lord Shiva Photo, raises issues.........The Other CCM is a voter in council but not lord Shiva
When in the past, certain photos of other gods were published, what these secular persons were doing? is a multi-million dollar question
Am not against any religion but definitely against pseudo-secularists..........who talk about secularism when they want.........
Objectionable remarks in the Chairmen's Page - If Chairman should be punished, he should be punished after punishing Previous Presidents......Amarjit Chopra, GR and JNS as they also stated / made similar remarks in various seminars / conferences.....I am sure, JV was deaf at that point of time........or pretended as if not heard because they were CCMs / holding VP / P position, and voters in Council for the VP Position..............
turnover limit for the Tax Audit may be raised to Rs.1.00 Cr : The Chairman, as I know personally about his practice, is not into Tax Practice and thus expected the limit to rise to 1 crore by mistake........whereas JV who is in full time Tax Practice should have knowledge that the limit is increased w.e.f 01/04/2013 i.e. AY 14-15. How can he say.....increase of limit is imaginary and no basis.............JV only should know............
Seminar on Bank Audit: JVs name has been put as Program director without his consent........ definitely Chairman is wrong........but can it be a reason for not printing & release of News Letter?
Publishing of details of the contestants for the Managing Committee of Hyderabad;: At Hyderabad branch, details of candidates were published and sent.......I remember receiving such information..........may be JV was not a member of Hyderabad branch or must not have seen such info - but can it be a reason for not printing & release of News Letter?
finally, i am of the opinion that this email by JV is out of frustration and therefore I pray to Lord Shiva to give peace of mind to my JV .........and relive him from all frustrations...........and also pray to every god of every religion to ensure "Padmasri" to JV in future for the services he will do to our profession, society, religions,country.
Suneel Kumar Appaji FCA
Knowledge Architect & Management Adviser
99893 10302, 90147 10302
J. Venkateswarlu 's mail to ICAI Secretary & Hyderabad branch chairman below:
Dear Mr. Chairman,
I have perused the Newsletter of March, 2013 of the Hyderabad Branch which you have sent to us vide trailing mail and request you to not to post the same to the Members for the following reasons:
1) Publishing of Lord Shiva's Photo on the cover page: India is a secular country and the ICAI is a Body enacted under an Act of Parliament and Hyderabad Branch of ICAI being a Branch of ICAI cannot publish the photographs of God or such other photos which indicate importance to any particular religion in its Newsletter / other publications.
2) Objectionable remarks in the Chairmen's Page: In your Message to the Members you have written the following under various headings
Depleted bank audit assignments
"This year the threshold for branch audits of banks has been increased from advances of Rs 6 cr. to Rs 20 cr. and
if the news is right it is expected to be Rs. 50 cr. or Rs 100 cr. in immediate future. This indicates that members
will no longer have the bank audits like before and this is going to affect many of us. Not that we are dependent
wholly on these audits but these audits provided the yearly bonus for many."
Your statement that the members will no longer have the bank audits like before and this is going to affect many of us is not giving the correct picture of the bank audit and in fact this kind of statements should be avoided in the Chairmen's Message.
Increase in the slab for tax audits:
"It is expected that the turnover limit for tax audit may be raised to Rs.1 Cr
which again will be reducing opportunities for Chartered Accountants."
Your expectation that the turnover limit for the Tax Audit may be raised to Rs.1.00 Cr. is completely imaginary and has no basis. This kind of expectation and imaginations should not have been written in the Chairman's Message.
Thanking the office bearers: "I also thank office bearers Vice Chairman CA Tirupathaiah Yarra,
Secretary CA Murali Krishna Nagabhirava , treasurer CA China Mastan
Talakayala and IPC CA Adusumilli Venkateswara Rao for their silent
cooperation in organizing more Number of CPE programs. I also thank
them for their unstinted support for some of the employees of branch
and creating a challenging environment for me in discharge of my duties
as Chairman."
The above office bearers have objected for your remark of their unstined support for some of the employees of the Branch and creating a challenging environment to you in discharge of your duties as Chairman. These office bearers have stated that they have not extended any unstinted support to any specific employee which has created a challenging environment to you in discharing your duties. Further, three of the office bearers have said that since they are contesting in the ensuing elections for the Managing Committee of the Branch, this kind of subtle adverse remarks against them in the Chairman's Message would impact their success in the Election.
Therefore, I suggest that this paragraph suitably modified to remove their apprehensions.
3) Seminar on Bank Audit: Under this programme my name is shown as one of the Programme Director. In this connection, I wish to bring to your notice that you have not taken my consent before (or after) naming me as the Director. Further, you have not only consulted me on the programme / speakers etc but also not even informed me before hand about the programme.
I suggest that in future you should take the necessary consent from the person concerned before naming him as a Director / Coordinator etc of a particular programme.
4) Publishing of details of the contestants for the Managing Committee of Hyderabad: I have seen the brief details of the candidates along with their photographs who are contesting in the Elections for the Managing Committee of Hyderabad Branch printed in the Newsletter from Page 3 onwards without any Title / reference / heading.
In the absence of any details about the candidates whose details are given in the Newsletter, the Members at large will not understand the purpose of printing this information in the Newsletter. Also, you may note that in the past the branch has never published the names of the contestants with their brief details and photograph in the newsletter.
Therefore, this is a clear violation of established practices and good governance. Therefore, this information cannot be printed in the Newsletter.
For the above reasons, I suggest you to stop posting the Newsletter of March, 2013 to the Membership.
I am marking a copy of this mail together with the Softcopy of the Newsletter (which you have sent to us ) to the Hon'ble President, ICAI, Vice-President, ICAI and the Secretary of ICAI for their information and immediate appropriate directions to you on the matter.
With regards,
J. Venkateswarlu
Source: http://www.wordfaire.com/councilaffairs/
If any evidence was needed that our profession has gone the BCCI way and is now mainly about power politics, pls see the mails below... Hyderabad too has gone the way of many other branches of ICAI... where the Managing Committee is badly divided... in this case however i actually believe that the action taken by the Secretary to order stopping of Branch newsletter is right on 2 counts... but on one count it sure isnt -
Displaying photo of Lord Shiva on newsletter cover page... there is nothing wrong about it.. I certainly dont agree with the views of CCM J. Venkatesawaralu on this aspect...
But the funny part of all this internal bickering being that the direction of ICAI Secretary to stop printing of newsletter came after the newsletter had been dispatched and reached most members!! ICAI once again has lived upto its reputation :) ( though to be sympathetic to the Secretary, how could he have imagined that the newsletter would contain objectionable content ? )
From: Suneel Appaji FCA <appaji@appaji.com>
Sender: appajiappaji@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 17:10:16 +0530
Subject: ICAI Secretary is swift in action - can you believe?
Dear All
ICAI Secretary is swift in action - can you believe? whether he acted immediately upon a request from a CCM / directions of VP / P is not known........but he acted...........complete details hereunder
I am pasting the email addressed by JV ( CCM from Hyderabad ) to Chairman of Hyderabad Branch, President, Vice-president, Secretary of ICAI at the bottom of this email, i.e. after my statement of opinions and comments............JV requested the Chairman to not to post the Branch News Letter of March, 2013 for certain reasons.
To please the council member, Secretary has asked the Chairman not to print and circulate............I have no clue as to whether Subodh or Raghu have instructed ICAI Secretary or he has acted on his own........However, he instructed is true....but my Delhi spies told me that they are unaware of concerned provisions - under what regulation he can ask or issue such direction is known only to him..........I am too not aware of branch directions, guidelines etc.
Now let me explain the issues involved......You may scroll down to see the complete email of JV before or after reading my analysis ........option is with you
Publishing of Lord Shiva's Photo on cover page - When ICAI has published photographs of politicians or ministers who are in-charge of our institute matters, what did the council members did.......nothing .........but Lord Shiva is neither holds Ministry nor a politician.......
When ICAI President's are received with "Purna Kumbha" at various places, no issues...publishing Lord Shiva is not a secular act.
Starting most of the conferences / seminars with Bhakti Songs (devotional songs) is secular but not publishing Lord Shiva's Photo
When at SIRC, Lord Ganesha was planted, no issues........but publishing his father's photo is not secular
When one CCM distributes Laddus, Bhagavat Gitas, Puictures of Lord Venkateswara........our JV was silent..........now when branch Chairman publishes Lord Shiva Photo, raises issues.........The Other CCM is a voter in council but not lord Shiva
When in the past, certain photos of other gods were published, what these secular persons were doing? is a multi-million dollar question
Am not against any religion but definitely against pseudo-secularists..........who talk about secularism when they want.........
Objectionable remarks in the Chairmen's Page - If Chairman should be punished, he should be punished after punishing Previous Presidents......Amarjit Chopra, GR and JNS as they also stated / made similar remarks in various seminars / conferences.....I am sure, JV was deaf at that point of time........or pretended as if not heard because they were CCMs / holding VP / P position, and voters in Council for the VP Position..............
turnover limit for the Tax Audit may be raised to Rs.1.00 Cr : The Chairman, as I know personally about his practice, is not into Tax Practice and thus expected the limit to rise to 1 crore by mistake........whereas JV who is in full time Tax Practice should have knowledge that the limit is increased w.e.f 01/04/2013 i.e. AY 14-15. How can he say.....increase of limit is imaginary and no basis.............JV only should know............
Seminar on Bank Audit: JVs name has been put as Program director without his consent........ definitely Chairman is wrong........but can it be a reason for not printing & release of News Letter?
Publishing of details of the contestants for the Managing Committee of Hyderabad;: At Hyderabad branch, details of candidates were published and sent.......I remember receiving such information..........may be JV was not a member of Hyderabad branch or must not have seen such info - but can it be a reason for not printing & release of News Letter?
finally, i am of the opinion that this email by JV is out of frustration and therefore I pray to Lord Shiva to give peace of mind to my JV .........and relive him from all frustrations...........and also pray to every god of every religion to ensure "Padmasri" to JV in future for the services he will do to our profession, society, religions,country.
Suneel Kumar Appaji FCA
Knowledge Architect & Management Adviser
99893 10302, 90147 10302
J. Venkateswarlu 's mail to ICAI Secretary & Hyderabad branch chairman below:
Dear Mr. Chairman,
I have perused the Newsletter of March, 2013 of the Hyderabad Branch which you have sent to us vide trailing mail and request you to not to post the same to the Members for the following reasons:
1) Publishing of Lord Shiva's Photo on the cover page: India is a secular country and the ICAI is a Body enacted under an Act of Parliament and Hyderabad Branch of ICAI being a Branch of ICAI cannot publish the photographs of God or such other photos which indicate importance to any particular religion in its Newsletter / other publications.
2) Objectionable remarks in the Chairmen's Page: In your Message to the Members you have written the following under various headings
Depleted bank audit assignments
"This year the threshold for branch audits of banks has been increased from advances of Rs 6 cr. to Rs 20 cr. and
if the news is right it is expected to be Rs. 50 cr. or Rs 100 cr. in immediate future. This indicates that members
will no longer have the bank audits like before and this is going to affect many of us. Not that we are dependent
wholly on these audits but these audits provided the yearly bonus for many."
Your statement that the members will no longer have the bank audits like before and this is going to affect many of us is not giving the correct picture of the bank audit and in fact this kind of statements should be avoided in the Chairmen's Message.
Increase in the slab for tax audits:
"It is expected that the turnover limit for tax audit may be raised to Rs.1 Cr
which again will be reducing opportunities for Chartered Accountants."
Your expectation that the turnover limit for the Tax Audit may be raised to Rs.1.00 Cr. is completely imaginary and has no basis. This kind of expectation and imaginations should not have been written in the Chairman's Message.
Thanking the office bearers: "I also thank office bearers Vice Chairman CA Tirupathaiah Yarra,
Secretary CA Murali Krishna Nagabhirava , treasurer CA China Mastan
Talakayala and IPC CA Adusumilli Venkateswara Rao for their silent
cooperation in organizing more Number of CPE programs. I also thank
them for their unstinted support for some of the employees of branch
and creating a challenging environment for me in discharge of my duties
as Chairman."
The above office bearers have objected for your remark of their unstined support for some of the employees of the Branch and creating a challenging environment to you in discharge of your duties as Chairman. These office bearers have stated that they have not extended any unstinted support to any specific employee which has created a challenging environment to you in discharing your duties. Further, three of the office bearers have said that since they are contesting in the ensuing elections for the Managing Committee of the Branch, this kind of subtle adverse remarks against them in the Chairman's Message would impact their success in the Election.
Therefore, I suggest that this paragraph suitably modified to remove their apprehensions.
3) Seminar on Bank Audit: Under this programme my name is shown as one of the Programme Director. In this connection, I wish to bring to your notice that you have not taken my consent before (or after) naming me as the Director. Further, you have not only consulted me on the programme / speakers etc but also not even informed me before hand about the programme.
I suggest that in future you should take the necessary consent from the person concerned before naming him as a Director / Coordinator etc of a particular programme.
4) Publishing of details of the contestants for the Managing Committee of Hyderabad: I have seen the brief details of the candidates along with their photographs who are contesting in the Elections for the Managing Committee of Hyderabad Branch printed in the Newsletter from Page 3 onwards without any Title / reference / heading.
In the absence of any details about the candidates whose details are given in the Newsletter, the Members at large will not understand the purpose of printing this information in the Newsletter. Also, you may note that in the past the branch has never published the names of the contestants with their brief details and photograph in the newsletter.
Therefore, this is a clear violation of established practices and good governance. Therefore, this information cannot be printed in the Newsletter.
For the above reasons, I suggest you to stop posting the Newsletter of March, 2013 to the Membership.
I am marking a copy of this mail together with the Softcopy of the Newsletter (which you have sent to us ) to the Hon'ble President, ICAI, Vice-President, ICAI and the Secretary of ICAI for their information and immediate appropriate directions to you on the matter.
With regards,
J. Venkateswarlu
Source: http://www.wordfaire.com/councilaffairs/
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